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posted on 30-7-2010 at 09:20 PM
New build Updated: Finished :)


I went to my buddies house today to try out a Tele hes got, I have never played one, so wanted to try it out. I want to build one. He let me borrow it for the week.
Anyway while there I saw an old project guitar that I gave him a few years back. A few years before that, a guy i knew gave me 4 of these guitars in various stages of being built. His brother had purchased a building in New Rochelle NY, and found 5 of these in the basement. I built one out completely sold 2 on ebay for $50 each. And gave one to David. So when I saw it today I was like wow, I forgot I gave this to you, he said I'm not going to ever do anything to it, so take it back.:cool:
So I am going to build this one out different then the one I already have.
Here is a picture of the first one I completed.
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The one I just got back has a bound rosewood fingerboard, No pics yet.

So 1st question is anyone try the Dream 90 humbucker size pickups from GFS? I don't have a P90 guitar, and think this would be perfect platform for it.
2nd question, I am not sure on how I want to finish it, right now it has the same ugly brown stain on it. One thought is TV yellow. Then I got to thinking how about TV yellow back and sides with a Gold Top, all from Reranch. You can see 4 separate pieces of wood in the body 3 of them on the top part above the center line. So any thoughts on the color combo? anyone every see anything like that?
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[Edited on 22-8-2010 by gearhead1972]

[Edited on 25-8-2010 by gearhead1972]




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posted on 30-7-2010 at 09:28 PM


Never used the Dream 90s... heard that they aren't very P90ish though. I have Tonerider Rebel 90s in an AL2k and they rock hard... fast becoming my second favorite guitar after my 3k with stock buckers.



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posted on 30-7-2010 at 09:33 PM


wow gearhead thats awesome.

as far as finish, if you don't like the brown stain, why not relic it?




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posted on 30-7-2010 at 10:14 PM


I may relic it, but I just want to make at least the front a solid color, now I am thinking white with gold hardware and the gold, with gold pearl dream 90's...ah decisions, decisions

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posted on 31-7-2010 at 03:29 AM


I have the Dreams and had the Means. I think I liked the Means better but would like to try the Rebel 90's.



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posted on 31-7-2010 at 09:13 AM


Thanks Stacks was just reading the Mean 90's description and I think I will go for them, that is how this guitar should sound. Hell no I am not shelling out $200 for this guitar's pick ups. Thats the price I am trying to stay under all together.

Bridge and stop $30
Tuners $25
Neck plate and screws $9
Wiring Kit $28
Mean 90's $70 for 2
That leaves about $40 for paint.

The sad part is this thing won't play near as well at my $200 AL lol




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posted on 31-7-2010 at 11:30 PM


So I started sanding the finish off both the body and the neck today, they both appear to be maple. I am leaning now towards Doing the neck clear, sides, and back clear. with a Gold top.
I will try to get some pictures of it sanded up once I an done sanding.
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http://lh3.ggpht.com/_HoAAKvS_mVE/TFWdGerQkAI/AAAAAAAAB7Y/eZEX1IgMjII/s800/IMAGE_361.jpg

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posted on 1-8-2010 at 03:12 PM


Almost completely stripped
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_HoAAKvS_mVE/TFWdKkDKzCI/AAAAAAAAB8A/yXDT3OXsUKo/s640/IMAGE_370.jpg

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posted on 2-8-2010 at 01:10 PM


I started some finishing work today, I went ahead and got Minwax Satin spray lacquer for the neck at Home Depot. Since that is an easy fix if I don't like it. Then I also got a shellac based sanding sealer for the body, and some white shellac primer for the top.

I have sprayed 3 coats on the neck already and am very, very happy with the results. The body also had 3 coats of sanding sealer on. I am going to do one more on that today and then let it dry overnight. Tomorrow I will tape off the sides and back to lay the primer for the Gold Top. I decided to go with natural sides and back and Gold Top.
Anyone have a GT with Black Hardware?
I have to order the GT paint, and nitro lacquer from Reranch, but need to wait till my unemployment check comes:fawk: Wednesday oh the joy of being out of work. One plus is that I have been playing a lot of guitar. More pics to come.

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posted on 2-8-2010 at 06:29 PM


Great choice on the satin lacquer for the neck, It feels so smooth.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_HoAAKvS_mVE/TFdUUSOa6WI/AAAAAAAAB8c/qqKSfG71GSw/s800/IMAGE_372.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_HoAAKvS_mVE/TFdUTx0lTfI/AAAAAAAAB8Y/umrRzKOqhVE/s800/IMAGE_371.jpg

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posted on 2-8-2010 at 06:35 PM


I love your final colour decisions, and that headstock is v. funky.

watching with anticipation! :bigthumb:




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posted on 2-8-2010 at 10:09 PM


Thanks TV, yeah I think its going to look killer. The body now has 5 coats of sanding sealer, and is sanded to 320 grit. Then i taped and papered off the body this evening so that I can spray the 2 primer coats on the top first thing in the morning. I scrounged around the house and car and came up with enough change to order 1 can of gold and 2 cans of lacquer from Reranch. Hopefully it will be here Thursday or Friday.



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posted on 3-8-2010 at 12:49 PM


3 coats of Shellac based primer on, and sanded to 320 grit on the body. The final 2 coats went on the neck, now I will let that cure for a week or so. I am not sure if I will wet sand it or not, I may just 0000 steel wool it, cause its smooth as a baby's bottom right now.
Now its just a waiting game for the gold flake and clear lacquer to come in.

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posted on 3-8-2010 at 12:56 PM


:bow: Looks awesome. I'm soon (in two weeks) going to start a project like this myself. I have an old Epi LP100 that I will strip and refinish. I'll keep an eye here for helpful hints. How long did it take you to sand the entire guitar down to the bare wood?



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posted on 3-8-2010 at 01:05 PM


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How long did it take you to sand the entire guitar down to the bare wood?

Well it only had a few coats of something on it lol, not sure what it was. It wasn't stain cause it came off like paint, I may have been a dyed nitro. Anyway, it took me about 6-8 hours to strip the neck and body. You may want to take a look at this thread before you start stripping that epi. I have been doing a lot of research while doing this. I have read that with polly you can just sand it real good and color over it, but if you want to go with a nitrocellulose finish then you will have to strip completely




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posted on 3-8-2010 at 05:21 PM


Just got the tracking number for the paint, will be here Friday ohno:



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posted on 3-8-2010 at 05:24 PM


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How long did it take you to sand the entire guitar down to the bare wood?

Well it only had a few coats of something on it lol, not sure what it was. It wasn't stain cause it came off like paint, I may have been a dyed nitro. Anyway, it took me about 6-8 hours to strip the neck and body. You may want to take a look at this thread before you start stripping that epi. I have been doing a lot of research while doing this. I have read that with polly you can just sand it real good and color over it, but if you want to go with a nitrocellulose finish then you will have to strip completely


Thanks for the link! I'm actually thinking of going to bare wood and giving it an oil finish. I will have to see though.




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posted on 3-8-2010 at 07:19 PM


Just adding a few more pictures, found my old digital camera, since my nice Sony crapped out.

So here is a picture of the original one of these I put together.
The one I am working on now is his sister.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_HoAAKvS_mVE/TFivMSbmPLI/AAAAAAAACEU/IpNZs_8UkXA/s800/IMAG0045.JPG

Can see a little of the shine here
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Close up of the headstock
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Another of the body primed and sanded
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posted on 5-8-2010 at 07:28 PM


A little update: Had a chrome bridge, my buddy David, had a stop tail, but the chrome bushings are a smaller outside diameter then the brass bushings that were in the guitar. Of course the chrom screws are M8 1.25 and the brass bushings are 5/16 24. So I am just gonna use the brass screws with the chrome tail.

Last night I ordered, Wilkinson kluson style tuning pegs, Tusq nut, neck plate, screws, 4 Black speed knobs, 3 way switch, 4 A500k Pots, 2 .047 orange drops, and an output jack. So the only things left are pick ups, I will order them next week. I have some strap buttons i think.
So today I finished sanding the primer on the top to near perfect smoothness, in anticipation of the paint coming tomorrow.

Then I went to my other buddies house, who has more money then god, to get a piece of maple to make the control cover. I made one for the first guitar a a few months ago, but I had to make it out of two pieces of oak and hand sand it to thickness. it is on the left in the pic below. I said to myself, I am not going through that crap again. So my buddy has a nice woodworking shop in his basement. I had him plane me a piece of maple to the same thickness as the first cover. I then traced and shaped it, drilled counter sunk holes and sanded it a little.Of course I have the body all taped off so I couldn't match the direction of the grain.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_HoAAKvS_mVE/TFtKCdU7uZI/AAAAAAAACHM/ys1tmYJyk5Q/s800/IMAG0073.JPG

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posted on 5-8-2010 at 07:37 PM


I love the look of a wooden back plate. Can't wait to see it finished. Are you leaving the back natural or doing it a color?



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posted on 5-8-2010 at 07:54 PM


Back and sides will be natural maple

Original guitar with the oak cover. Can't wait to see what the maple one looke like on the new build
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_HoAAKvS_mVE/TFWcmvR7UgI/AAAAAAAAB3A/eBlHTUYGqbE/s800/IMAGE_292.jpg

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posted on 6-8-2010 at 07:18 PM


First two coats of gold are on, pics later. It looks nice, stuff goes on thin too.



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posted on 6-8-2010 at 08:40 PM


Looks nice. Can't wait to see gold.

PS That set-list isn't a drop cloth!




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posted on 6-8-2010 at 10:16 PM


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Haha my work bench doubles as my music stand.




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posted on 6-8-2010 at 10:22 PM


Ok 4 coats of gold and it looks freaking great.
Nitro lacquer starts tomorrow

Tack coat
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_HoAAKvS_mVE/TFzOSy9g9LI/AAAAAAAACHs/EkznErllouc/s800/IMAG0082.JPG

Second coat
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_HoAAKvS_mVE/TFzOTIyeydI/AAAAAAAACHw/IVaPPh3olK4/s800/IMAG0083.JPG

The rest are of the final, fourth coat.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_HoAAKvS_mVE/TFzOT2AwXOI/AAAAAAAACH0/pkPg9tgbIhI/s800/IMAG0084.JPG

Sparkle
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_HoAAKvS_mVE/TFzOUcgbwDI/AAAAAAAACH4/6XgOagsLCGU/s800/IMAG0085.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_HoAAKvS_mVE/TFzOUznQE8I/AAAAAAAACH8/sBQVGJj8bqE/s800/IMAG0086.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_HoAAKvS_mVE/TFzOVovYEXI/AAAAAAAACIA/QM8VqgpoHzE/s800/IMAG0087.JPG




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